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Giovanni

Rookie 1
Guys, I will say this again: stop calculating the simple average of player's overall - it has not much to do with your lineup overall
Well what would you suggest? I have to plan the players I am gonna get, so I have to know the average ovr needed.
 

dub365

All-Star 1
If the above is correct, I would hit 105 if I buy Giannis, right? I thought I HAD to get a 104 C, but you’re saying I could get there with replacing Zion with a 103 PF?
You need a 104 C, a 103 PF, AND you may need a 104 PG since you don't have Siakam.

Look at this. I had to get a 104 PG to make it happen
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LakersFan8

Rookie 1
I know this team is awful rn, but I have 60,000 points saved up. How should I go about filling the pf and c slots? I’ll be getting Stockton tomorrow
 

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Hroswith

Rookie 3
You need a 104 C, a 103 PF, AND you may need a 104 PG since you don't have Siakam.

Look at this. I had to get a 104 PG to make it happen
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Well, that’s probably not going to happen. I can get either Giannis or a 104 C. I’ll probably take Shaq, but if that doesn’t get me to 105, I’m giving up. I was probably going to bench or sell Siakam anyway.
 

Hroswith

Rookie 3
I know this team is awful rn, but I have 60,000 points saved up. How should I go about filling the pf and c slots? I’ll be getting Stockton tomorrow
Depends on what you want. With a 104 center and 99 PF you’ll at least get to the first master with Stockton. Don’t know if adding a 101 SG will get you to 103 though, but you’ll definitely get the first master.

Or you could buy a 103 PF and a 101 SG and hope you’ll hit a 98+ C with the 1500 point pack
 
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Matt.o_10

Rookie 1
Do you all know if in the live reserves pack (1500stars point) There are also 3points contest winner and the other players of the other competition?
 

Matt.o_10

Rookie 1
Since all the players are in the right position within playing and bench, would I be able to reach 105OVR?? If so, do you suggest to get another boost 103 pf so that I can swipe him with bird or Should I get another pm which is 104 but no boost for Stockton??
 

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dub365

All-Star 1
Since all the players are in the right position within playing and bench, would I be able to reach 105OVR?? If so, do you suggest to get another boost 103 pf so that I can swipe him with bird or Should I get another pm which is 104 but no boost for Stockton??
You need a 104 PG. I would go with Curry bc it's a sick card and it's stronger than the others since it boosts to 105 in a normal lineup. That is the only way you get to 105 unless you get Dirk
 

teamduncan

Rookie 2
Guys, I will say this again: stop calculating the simple average of player's overall - it has not much to do with your lineup overall

Simple average is the best estimate.
The ovr is simple average plus boost. Without boost. You need to reach 100.5 to reach 101. With boost you might reach with 101.3 (since boosts are low to non existent) it has always been like that the last 4 years. It has been average plus boost.

You can see antadoc other post where simple average will give you a very good estimate.

While I agree ea probably uses some other way. But simple average is pretty accurate. Unless you know the exact way and you're willing to share, simple average will likely be used.

If you don't know or are not willing to share. Then what's the point?
 

Solo

Rookie 1
Any suggestions help req to reach 101
 

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Anatdoc

All-Star 3
Any suggestions help req to reach 101
Options..
get 75k - take a 104 PG ... best use of points and guaranteed 101 lineup
OR
get 21k - take 101 SG and 99 SF .. 1004 .. should round up to 101
OR
get 60k - take 103 PF and 101 SG - guaranteed 101

so decide based on how much u end up
 

Ggdfhjjjh

Rookie 1
Simple average is the best estimate.
The ovr is simple average plus boost. Without boost. You need to reach 100.5 to reach 101. With boost you might reach with 101.3 (since boosts are low to non existent) it has always been like that the last 4 years. It has been average plus boost.

You can see antadoc other post where simple average will give you a very good estimate.

While I agree ea probably uses some other way. But simple average is pretty accurate. Unless you know the exact way and you're willing to share, simple average will likely be used.

If you don't know or are not willing to share. Then what's the point?

The point is this forum is supposed to help, not to be misleading. Sorry if someone was hurt by my post, really didn't mean to do so.

Also I acknowledge that my statement was a bit inaccurate. Simple average is definitely a best estimate of team's overall since team's overall is a function of the simple average and boost, in which you totally right. Problem is that simple average might be very misleading in the context of this particular promo.

For example, please look at the post by Matt.o_10 in which he shows his lineup and asks whether he should get another 103 PF or rather 104 PG. Take into consideration that either of these options would not affect team's overall. So would any of these options give him 105 overall? For 103 PF the answer is no. For 104 PG the answer is maybe - it depends on whom he will choose. If he goes with LD PG he will be at 105, if he goes with any other 104 PG he will be at 104. Moreover, there is even easier and much more affordable way to get to 105 - he needs another SG, namely the LD SG - and he will get 105.

What matters here, of course, is a coach's boost. But as you can see, if you only consider simple average, you can make a huge mistake - for instance, you can spend 75k for the PG that won't help you. So when I read here a post be Stewie (who are very respected man, no offense) that you should choose Giannis AND Anthony Davis because they are better than KD (or LBJ AND Siakam over Kawhi), I want to cry. This is really misleading and can cost people a lot.

The optimal strategy for this promo is very simple and straightforward. There are two aspects: 1. Replace your players in such a way that overall difference between replacing player and replaced player was maximum. 2. Replace players with respect to your coach's style, so choose the player of the same style that your coach's one is. You have to have 5 players of your coach's style.
 

Solo

Rookie 1
Options..
get 75k - take a 104 PG ... best use of points and guaranteed 101 lineup
OR
get 21k - take 101 SG and 99 SF .. 1004 .. should round up to 101
OR
get 60k - take 103 PF and 101 SG - guaranteed 101

so decide based on how much u end up

Thank u..... Anatdoc
At this stage first one doesn't seem rechable....
Will try for 60 k..... 👍👍👍👍
 

Matt.o_10

Rookie 1
Since all the players are in the right position within playing and bench, would I be able to reach 105OVR?? If so, do you suggest to get another boost 103 pf so that I can swipe him with bird or Should I get another pm which is 104 but no boost for Stockton??
You need a 104 PG. I would go with Curry bc it's a sick card and it's stronger than the others since it boosts to 105 in a normal lineup. That is the only way you get to 105 unless you get Dirk

I’ll go for Kirye... doesn’t he boos to 105??
 

RoadRunners

Rookie 1
The point is this forum is supposed to help, not to be misleading. Sorry if someone was hurt by my post, really didn't mean to do so.

Also I acknowledge that my statement was a bit inaccurate. Simple average is definitely a best estimate of team's overall since team's overall is a function of the simple average and boost, in which you totally right. Problem is that simple average might be very misleading in the context of this particular promo.

For example, please look at the post by Matt.o_10 in which he shows his lineup and asks whether he should get another 103 PF or rather 104 PG. Take into consideration that either of these options would not affect team's overall. So would any of these options give him 105 overall? For 103 PF the answer is no. For 104 PG the answer is maybe - it depends on whom he will choose. If he goes with LD PG he will be at 105, if he goes with any other 104 PG he will be at 104. Moreover, there is even easier and much more affordable way to get to 105 - he needs another SG, namely the LD SG - and he will get 105.

What matters here, of course, is a coach's boost. But as you can see, if you only consider simple average, you can make a huge mistake - for instance, you can spend 75k for the PG that won't help you. So when I read here a post be Stewie (who are very respected man, no offense) that you should choose Giannis AND Anthony Davis because they are better than KD (or LBJ AND Siakam over Kawhi), I want to cry. This is really misleading and can cost people a lot.

The optimal strategy for this promo is very simple and straightforward. There are two aspects: 1. Replace your players in such a way that overall difference between replacing player and replaced player was maximum. 2. Replace players with respect to your coach's style, so choose the player of the same style that your coach's one is. You have to have 5 players of your coach's style.

So, using this rationale, would getting 101 Holiday as SG put me at 105 overall because I'll get the boost with 5 players for my silver coach?
 

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