Any news/ideas when next chapter(s) of Harden MVP Campaign is coming out??

[edlllpt]

I'm trying to figure what they're making too easy?

Embiid's 1000 events to 10 elevate (to 1 event) is the one thing that prompted my comment.

It was as an unnecessary change to a goal that didn't have anything wrong with it while they kept a sets-goal that would be fine if it was not unique sets which was the general expectation, but instead that one remained unrealistic with promises of a new change. They're adjusting things so people get the cards at the timing they want, and not a matter of your efforts.

before that the osm promo and the market changes turned a 79 like Randle a 10k card that can be grabbed by someone that started playing today are also a thing I can mention here. at the start of s3 EA wanted the 3499 coins-packs to be the new thing and made top base-silvers rare yet they got scared of the slow progression and now everyone can be a 79 quick. And then you have a mess at the elite-market level.

I don't have any strong feelings about Elevate and next gen, but if at the end of the pre-season most of the line-ups end having 8/10 of

westbrook-harden-lebron-griffin-embiid/shaq + klay-giannis-drummond doesn't that look kinda boring and standardized?

 

[betaman411]

I'm trying to figure what they're making too easy?

Embiid's 1000 events to 10 elevate (to 1 event) is the one thing that prompted my comment.

It was as an unnecessary change to a goal that didn't have anything wrong with it while they kept a sets-goal that would be fine if it was not unique sets which was the general expectation, but instead that one remained unrealistic with promises of a new change. They're adjusting things so people get the cards at the timing they want, and not a matter of your efforts.

I think they should?ve just moved up the 80 OVR requirement ahead of the 1000 events. Maybe drop it to 750 but switching to Elevate was a knee jerk reaction when the 75 Get Loose Wins was the most egregious oversight.

 

[Anatdoc]

Ya that's what it looks like.. but I guess we cant complain.. we wanted grindable cards.. we got it...
My way of looking at it.. the people who spend will usually have atleast 2 ovr higher than the hardcore grinder and the f2p who plays minimally wont be too far from the hardcore grinder.. sort of a 79-81-83 .. which seems to be fine...at those ovr levels. The more skilled players should not have an issue..
As far as embiid goes.. it was just poor planning.. and good planning. They didnt want his 79/80/81 too easily attainable.. but they went overboard with the requirements.. and now they are going overboard trying to fix it

 

[Commondjapan]

Brian has gotten frustrated with people lately and had a long answer about why things aren't as easy to fix as we presume, which is fair enough, but it seems a lot of the problems stem from them working on the content around a month in advance. The more content they drop the more it seems to affect whatever long-term plans they have like the original plan for Embiid to be an 82 after 75 days.

 

[Commondjapan]

I'm trying to figure what they're making too easy? Unless you spend money, you're still gonna have to collect 100 rocket tokens by playing that event at least 40 times lol. You want a grind, there it is. im not saying anyone above will do this, but you can't buy the pack that allows 5 times rocket tokens and get mad it's too easy lol.

Is it the Embiid that they're making too easy? I'm sure they didn't intentially have it unlock after one Elevate win after stating it required ten. Surely it's not the Embiid price, because the game Master should be free with ability to grind (and hopefully be relevant, which is looking likely if the 75 event is changed).

Is it Elevate? That event is a grinder's paradise! Those elite tokens aren't as frequent as it seemed early on. 83 requires 3600TP. You might grind 1500 in elites out of that, leaving 21 individual tokens to grind while also getting tokens you wish you could use on the other player!

I don't think they need to take away restrictions like the 250k rep or the training cost for Embiid but I realize I am in the minority. I understand there are stamina demands now that we have regular programs, but these programs are permanent so there is no need to hurry. I was kind of hoping we would have a requirement for Harden like win one season or something like that.

 

[Iamlegendz]

So what are required for chapter 2? New rocket?s tokens and 10 Gold Players(any?)? Thanks

yes it seems to be the case. 100 rocket tokens and 10 random golds

Thank you. Will ready the requirements then.

 

[jack_george]

I'm trying to figure what they're making too easy? Unless you spend money, you're still gonna have to collect 100 rocket tokens by playing that event at least 40 times lol. You want a grind, there it is. im not saying anyone above will do this, but you can't buy the pack that allows 5 times rocket tokens and get mad it's too easy lol.

Is it the Embiid that they're making too easy? I'm sure they didn't intentially have it unlock after one Elevate win after stating it required ten. Surely it's not the Embiid price, because the game Master should be free with ability to grind (and hopefully be relevant, which is looking likely if the 75 event is changed).

Is it Elevate? That event is a grinder's paradise! Those elite tokens aren't as frequent as it seemed early on. 83 requires 3600TP. You might grind 1500 in elites out of that, leaving 21 individual tokens to grind while also getting tokens you wish you could use on the other player!

I don't think they need to take away restrictions like the 250k rep or the training cost for Embiid but I realize I am in the minority. I understand there are stamina demands now that we have regular programs, but these programs are permanent so there is no need to hurry. I was kind of hoping we would have a requirement for Harden like win one season or something like that.

The good news for those that did grind for the rep is that you can still at least get the gold players out of the showdown packs for the Harden set. It's only 5 golds for 5 packs, but it's a start at least. I've personally been selling most/all of my gold until now. and I'm not sure 10K for one gold in the store is ideal, but I guess there's always the chance you pull a card worth MUCH more than 10K (3% chance according to the pack lol).

Am I the only one that hasn't had a ton of extra base silver/bronze just laying around? Most days, I've only done the two required sets because inventory is so dry for me, and it just didn't seem worth it to grind the mover blitz at 30 stamina for 2 silver, which was 180 stamina for one OSM Gold with the other events that need grinding.


On a sidenote, I agree the programs are permanent, so there's no MAJOR rush, but you still don't want to get an 84 Klay in January (maybe an exaggeration, but you get my point)

 

[Gareth64]

I did grind SD for the rep in anticipation of the SD pack being a requirement for 81 Harden. I?m close to the 250k rep but not there yet. I?m sure it'll be useful somewhere, maybe for the next chapter? I?m not chucking it into the store for those SD packs yet that?s for sure.

Key thing for me is stamina management. I want to level up both Elevate players and get the 81 Harden! You can burn serious stamina on the elevate events and once you?ve levelled them up to 78 or so and up, it takes a bit to get to the next level, particularly if you?re only pulling gold and no elite collectibles!

 

[Commondjapan]

You should save your stamina for Elevate because the chances are you'll lose a few of the Harden challenges.

 

[jack_george]

After all of this, the stamina cost for the blitz is 40?????? It was 20 last chapter.

 

[edlllpt]

After all of this, the stamina cost for the blitz is 40?????? It was 20 last chapter.

I guess they didn't make it easy after all. And it's all against our stamina. A rep requirement would be a lot better than this in my view.

You should save your stamina for Elevate because the chances are you'll lose a few of the Harden challenges.

I'm not sure if it's a translation issue, but are there multiple requirements over there that don't match with the counters?

There are events asking for 12 points in the text, but you can score only 9 with Harden and win. and that happens in a lot of them.

And there is one, which was the one I found the hardest - that was asking for 10 points, but requirement was 0/4 and it didn't count twos, only threes. The first two attempts I was basically figuring out the requirement.

I also got kicked out of of one last events when it was basically won and I was just avoiding defenders in the last possession. probably got me the 20 stamina - i played the event again and this time with no issue.

 

[jack_george]

I'm not sure if it's a translation issue, but are there multiple requirements over there that don't match with the counters?

And there is one, which was the one I found the hardest - that was asking for 10 points, but requirement was 0/4 and it didn't count twos, only threes. The first two attempts I was basically figuring out the requirement.

Definitely some translation issues it seems. The most common one was score 9 points with Harden, but the 0/4 ones was 4 assists and another required 4 3 pointers (the one that didn't count 2s).

 

[Gareth64]

Part 2 Hans been interesting because there?s def been some tricky challenges for sure, but overall, to summarise the chapter, I feel like it?s pretty much been about getting the ball to Harden and asking him to rain 3s and then splash some more 3s for about an hour?s worth of solid grind! no one else in my team pretty much did anything for the whole chapter!

 

[jack_george]

Part 2 Hans been interesting because there?s def been some tricky challenges for sure, but overall, to summarise the chapter, I feel like it?s pretty much been about getting the ball to Harden and asking him to rain 3s and then splash some more 3s for about an hour?s worth of solid grind! no one else in my team pretty much did anything for the whole chapter!

Someone should tweet Brian concerning the 40 stamina needed vs 20 last chapter. Maybe they will change it and can add it to the update that will fix Elevate/Embiid. I don't have a twitter....

 

[Gareth64]

I agree. 40 stamina is ridiculous for (probably) one token at a time.

 

[jack_george]

I agree. 40 stamina is ridiculous for (probably) one token at a time.

I played it once, I can't bring myself to do it again at 40 per.....

 

[jack_george]

Im not complaining, but it's kind of a stretch to call that Rocket Harden they start you with for Ch 2 a "better" card than Thunder Harden. The biggest difference is post shot rating, everything else that's better is by 1 or 2 points and there are a few stats that are worse!

Don't get me started on the 81 they loan that was missing multiple perfect release shots in a row....not an ideal way to get us excited to grind for the card if this is the kind of results we get with the loaner lol. Most people I know that have that kind of experience tend to get pushed away by the card, no one wants that frustration.

I said I didn't plan to complain, so I'll stop while i can lol. Just some observations, is all.

 

[Anatdoc]

I'm just looking at the card (the 83) as an eventual bench card or in 'another' lineup...

 

[Commondjapan]

You don't need to trade the 80-82 Hardens in to get the 83 but hold onto them because there might be an Ultimate Harden set that gives you an 84 or an 85 if you trade everythingl in.

 

[jack_george]

So, any word on if they will change it from 40 Stamina? Or are we just stuck with being able to play the event 6 times at best using all our stamina? I see some people already have the 81 Harden. did they make the Fast Break super duper fast and only cost 10 stamina? 20?

I've checked Brian's twitter, but haven't seen any mention of that...but we didn't see any mention of a new shot meter being chucked into the game, either, so who knows.