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NERF HAS ME AT THE JUMPING OFF PLACE

TomH

Pro 2
I have a decision to make - keep playing, take a few weeks off, or just quit for good. The gameplay nerf is out of control and EA shows no signs at all of acknowledging it or desiring to fix it. I’m not talking about the the old Nerf - where your lineup (or a card) gets nerfed after you use it for a while, I’m talking about the “OVR nerf.“ And by that I mean specifically that lvl (the most) and SD (second most) is ovr nerfed when playing a -2 or more ovr team, which brings about a 90% chance of a complete nerf. What’s a complete nerf? Open shots missing. AI either hitting everything or rebounding misses for easy put back. Nearly impossible stealing - and when you do knock it away from pg there’s a high chance that ai PF or C will literally fly in out of nowhere and pick it up.

This goes back to changes EA made last August, they won’t acknowledge what they’ve done (likely because having done it they don’t know how to fix it), they don’t seem to give a **** either way, and it...
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dub365

Pro 3
I have a decision to make - keep playing, take a few weeks off, or just quit for good. The gameplay nerf is out of control and EA shows no signs at all of acknowledging it or desiring to fix it. I’m not talking about the the old Nerf - where your lineup (or a card) gets nerfed after you use it for a while, I’m talking about the “OVR nerf.“ And by that I mean specifically that lvl (the most) and SD (second most) is ovr nerfed when playing a -2 or more ovr team, which brings about a 90% chance of a complete nerf. What’s a complete nerf? Open shots missing. AI either hitting everything or rebounding misses for easy put back. Nearly impossible stealing - and when you do knock it away from pg there’s a high chance that ai PF or C will literally fly in out of nowhere and pick it up.

This goes back to changes EA made last August, they won’t acknowledge what they’ve done (likely because having done it they don’t know how to fix it), they don’t seem to give a **** either way, and it isn’t going to change. And it’s worse in lvl right now. I mean really, we have to tank our lineups depending on how weak opponent league is Just to reduce chance of nerf. Un-nerfed 25+ is easy in lvl. Nerfed, I might throw up +10.

This makes no sense at all. Who has the higher OVRs - spenders or f2p? Easy answer. Where does EA’s money come from? Easy answer too.

im at the jumping off point which sounds like, “this game is trash so what’s the point?” Even the NBALM YouTubers, some of whom are EA game changers, are routinely taking a dump on the game. This site and Reddit have noticeably reduced player engagements. I can only conclude that is due to players leaving the game. It‘s come to this?

EA listened to a bunch of whiners on Reddit last year and it seems the squeaky wheel really does get the grease. The changes in August, coming in two waves, were obvious. And dramatic. And this game has sucked balls since. Don’t know what these morons did with the S4 rollout, but they made it even worse.

Ive pretty much stopped playing SD and am taking a break from lvl. The EA NBALM team is a joke. I’m not saying I’m done....yet. But I don’t find myself intersted in opening the app much anymore. And that says a lot.
Totally agree. LVL is ultimately what makes me care about this game and lately the shitty quarters I'm having + the cheating leagues have me exasperated. SD has always been a circus though it does still kill me when I eventually get the "you've been winning to much" Nerf and my 94 squad gets lit up by 88s, smh. It's just gotten really bad where the only things changing are completely dependent on generating profit. Jesus, they just nerfed all the Lineup packs on us when that was obv just to give us less bc they'd been good packs....... great show of customer service guys!
 

TomH

Pro 2
Totally agree. LVL is ultimately what makes me care about this game and lately the shitty quarters I'm having + the cheating leagues have me exasperated. SD has always been a circus though it does still kill me when I eventually get the "you've been winning to much" Nerf and my 94 squad gets lit up by 88s, smh. It's just gotten really bad where the only things changing are completely dependent on generating profit. Jesus, they just nerfed all the Lineup packs on us when that was obv just to give us less bc they'd been good packs....... great show of customer service guys!
it’s so much fun when their 93 Magic owns 97 Magic.

Ive stopped playing the lineup events. Can’t wait until the 93 legendary set drops and the current campaign masters will be 97s. Let’s face it - everything about this game is a mess now. Nothing makes sense, no continuity among different sets. These guys have their heads up their arses.

If my 94 SS lineup with +13 3pt boost (I spent a boat load of coin for the SS Super boost item with +7 3pt) is playing a 91 and misses first two shots for no reason at all, I just exit the app.
 

dub365

Pro 3
Yup, assbackwards for sure. I'm wondering if the Superstars are dead. We're already halfway through the 90s with promo masters. Why have Superstars capped at 90? I'm probably one of few ppl who actually have one maxed out.....but why have them if they can't be useful? Is it hurting the bottom line? I bet they haven't figured out how to integrate more than one type of starpower into the game at the same time..... Which is another assbackwards idea. Make them different tiers, cap them too long and then make EACH TIER USE A DIFFERENT POWER-UP CURRENCY. 👍
 

dub365

Pro 3
Speaking of Legends......I can't understand why they completely bastardized the whole idea by using base cards and not even making the Legend cards unique. They were at first but they still didn't have killer stats and now the only special thing they have is stat boosts bc there are a lot of ability cards out there to choose from.

I mean, if this isn't the definition of pointless, idk what is:
I had 92 Street Legend PJ Tucker on my bench for his 3pt boost. I decided to get rid of him and went to scout current prices. In doing so I found a NON-clutch version of the card.....still having +3 3pt boost. So I bought that for a few hundred k and sold the Legend card for a couple mil. WHY give out basically the same card in packs? Just why?
 

TomH

Pro 2
Speaking of Legends......I can't understand why they completely bastardized the whole idea by using base cards and not even making the Legend cards unique. They were at first but they still didn't have killer stats and now the only special thing they have is stat boosts bc there are a lot of ability cards out there to choose from.

I mean, if this isn't the definition of pointless, idk what is:
I had 92 Street Legend PJ Tucker on my bench for his 3pt boost. I decided to get rid of him and went to scout current prices. In doing so I found a NON-clutch version of the card.....still having +3 3pt boost. So I bought that for a few hundred k and sold the Legend card for a couple mil. WHY give out basically the same card in packs? Just why?
Ive been trying to figure this out for a while. It seems many cards have base, base + coin xp, base plus +1 attribute boost, base plus +2 or 3 attribute boost, base plus max boost plus ability. I’ve been trying to figure up out the motive (looking for motive in ea actions is a dangerous task). The only thing I could think of is it might somewhat negate ah bots.
 

Steve Rogers

Rookie 2
We played against some guys from top20 (they are clean,dont cheat) and one of them with 95 ovr lineup missed 14 shots (yes 14) against my teammate who have 92 ovr lineup....if that is not somekind of code by EA idk wtf it is
And also just because of all things that you have mentioned 3 of our teammates that we were playing together basicly from day 1 of this game have quit...smh 😕
 

Altavilla

Pro 1
I’m still on my break, which for me means not caring about ovr.
Sold nearly all my 1M+ auctionable cards and went back to 92/90/90/90.

I’m not playing LvL atm but on SD the result was great: the nerf problem you mention has stopped and I’ve been having enjoyable manual gameplay.

Side effect #1: a lot of the cards I pull fit my starting lineups, which is fun
Side effect #2: I stopped spending cash (EA or FIAT), aside from a Court Pass, and I’ll probably stop that too
Side effect #3: the range of players I can use has increased a lot
Side effect #4: my coin count is increasing

Try it man. Have a break. You’ll keep enjoyable routines and most of the frustration goes away
 
I stopped playing competitively during Season 3. There is no reason to play competitively when the rewards are so poor. Unfortunately, they're putting even less effort into this season than I imagined. It's almost like their operating budget has been cut.

It doesn't surprise me that they've given up on Superstars. They don't exactly have the greatest track record when it comes to seeing this type of things through. Any time there has been a set that's obsolete or outdated they always claim it's a set for newer players. Superstars is basically this season's Elevate. We'll probably get to max them out in the final week of the season.

I can't believe they took away weekly programs, though. Well, I can, since they clearly don't want to put the man hours into making weekly program cards, but these shitty style events do not make up for the lack of weekly programs.

And what about dust? What is the point of dust? It has even less use than rep.
 
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panospap

Rookie 1
I stopped playing competitively during Season 3. There is no reason to play competitively when the rewards are so poor. Unfortunately, they're putting even less effort into this season than I imagined. It's almost like their operating budget has been cut.

It doesn't surprise me that they've given up on Superstars. They don't exactly have the greatest track record when it comes to seeing this type of things through. Any time there has been a set that's obsolete or outdated they always claim it's a set for newer players. Superstars is basically this season's Elevate. We'll probably get to max them out in the final week of the season.

I can't believe they took away weekly programs, though. Well, I can, since they clearly don't want to put the man hours into making weekly program cards, but these shitty style events too not make up for the lack of weekly programs.

And what about dust? What is the point of dust? It has even less use than rep.
So well said Commond.
I have started to give up hope for something good this season.
I don't know why they just take away things that players liked and gave positive feedback.
They should bring back things such as weekly programs and real awards for showdown, like in S2 where they gave top of the scale players with varying ovr depending on your ranking.
Change or get rid of the obsolete and ridiculously expensive superstars.
They ruined the legends. People like to see a player, a real face, a legend of basketball that comes up every week and not some random silhouettes in the sets. I don't even care about legend.
Player of the week is also a mess. Are we supposed to grind 10 weeks for a card that is -3, -4 compared to the highest over cards?
The programs' and campaigns' ovrs are not harmonized. It looks like completely different developers make them that don't talk to each other.
Gameplay is also getting worse and worse.
It is a really sad situation for the game right now. And yeah it really looks like their budget is cut...
 

Altavilla

Pro 1
I stopped playing competitively during Season 3. There is no reason to play competitively when the rewards are so poor. Unfortunately, they're putting even less effort into this season than I imagined. It's almost like their operating budget has been cut.

It doesn't surprise me that they've given up on Superstars. They don't exactly have the greatest track record when it comes to seeing this type of things through. Any time there has been a set that's obsolete or outdated they always claim it's a set for newer players. Superstars is basically this season's Elevate. We'll probably get to max them out in the final week of the season.

I can't believe they took away weekly programs, though. Well, I can, since they clearly don't want to put the man hours into making weekly program cards, but these shitty style events do not make up for the lack of weekly programs.

And what about dust? What is the point of dust? It has even less use than rep.
I think dust was supposed to be a way to recycle old tokens. But they seem to forget updating it, allowing for recent tokens (like coal) to be thrown in so... yeah

The nerf TomH mentioned in the opening post is the main problem for me. Makes upgrading my team pointless.
Yesterday i was matched against a 92 on SD (I was using a 90) and had a hard time, but at least it was against a team 2 ovrs higher than mine. It was so frustrating when it was the other way around 😣
 

picklegoat

Rookie 2
You aren't going to quit. The game is what it is, EA are who they are. They rarely listen and each week we have threads on here about what they are doing wrong. I just made a post about how annoying the bb and clutch misses are and you replied how those shots should be subject to normal shot issues. All these things are subjective and everyone has different opinions on how the game should be. We who play the most and are part of a forum will have the most opinions about the game now and going forward.
 

TomH

Pro 2
EA gave me one day to enjoy some new players Monday. Today is day 2 of a total shooting nerf - not the ovr nerf. Any lineup, any type of gameplay, nothing goes in. Just played 2 lvl drives and made only 3 manual 3s. Old school nerf. But worst I’ve experienced. Come on EA, one day?!
 

Stewie309

Superstar 3
Staff member
Community Chief
I have finally read this thread word for word thanks to a bunch of vodka and Circles by Mac Miller I honestly got discouraged by the long posts but I trust everyone here to follow the rules so I didn't feel too bad for glancing over it because I knew the general message (A+ title work Tom)

Now that I read it yes nerf exists and always has there were people on .GG that insisted we were conspiracy theorists and crazy but the bottom line is anyone with knowledge of the game knows that EA tweaks things much of it for the worse but you have stretches that give you hope I for one still for the most part fill that +20 qouta (+10 per quarter) that I have stood by since LvL finally came it is hard at times and infuriating but the league and this site keeps me playing I don't want to leave but I know that one day I will and whether I make it from day 2 of the beta to the closing of this game or not I will know that this game brought me enjoyment and sorrow to the tune of about $1,000 but I will never forget the bonds I've made whether they stick or not (the MyNBA and NBA All Net bonds are all dead so I wouldn't be shocked if these ones do too) and I hope that everyone here feels the same way it's life in this game and feeling forced to spend makes that burden even worse I know you're a heavy spender so it hits harder when the game screws you over but I think of you take it easy the enjoyment will come back I completely cut off my alt account in November and haven't looked back it was a damper on me but since then I feel the game is more enjoyable everyone should cool down and not feel pressured to be the best possible because it is a drain on your in-game life and you're real life my lowest point was doing bid wars during breaks at work to the tune of it getting me in trouble

Bottom line is take it easy and you will be better off in every aspect
 

TomH

Pro 2
Gotcha. My league mates vetoed my lvl break and I was quickly back to 20+ margins, even with harden missing his clutch in back to back drives. Been playing SD but not much for me - barely top 200 (and who cares with no rewards at all - no, shards dont count as rewards anymore). The nerf isn’t as bad. We will see what Saturday brings.
 
Gotcha. My league mates vetoed my lvl break and I was quickly back to 20+ margins, even with harden missing his clutch in back to back drives. Been playing SD but not much for me - barely top 200 (and who cares with no rewards at all - no, shards dont count as rewards anymore). The nerf isn’t as bad. We will see what Saturday brings.
Have to laugh when "not playing much" is equivalent to Top 200. Perhaps the real source of your dissatisfaction with the game (real money spent aside because nobody could argue there's any value to be had there with the current state of the game) is rooted in a misguided (and rather unfruitful in terms of the rewards) obsession as opposed to it being a hobby from which you could extract some joy?! 😜

Just yanking your chain...game sucks right now but we can always hope, right?!
 

TomH

Pro 2
Have to laugh when "not playing much" is equivalent to Top 200. Perhaps the real source of your dissatisfaction with the game (real money spent aside because nobody could argue there's any value to be had there with the current state of the game) is rooted in a misguided (and rather unfruitful in terms of the rewards) obsession as opposed to it being a hobby from which you could extract some joy?! 😜

Just yanking your chain...game sucks right now but we can always hope, right?!
For me yeah, thats hardly playing. Last 2 lvl have been +28 and +31 rekindling my hope, which will prolly be dashed today with a +12. SD still sketchy AF. Melo is a terrible shooting card So far.
 

dub365

Pro 3
For me yeah, thats hardly playing. Last 2 lvl have been +28 and +31 rekindling my hope, which will prolly be dashed today with a +12. SD still sketchy AF. Melo is a terrible shooting card So far.
That's interesting. I picked up Street Melo and he's killin it. Got rid of Ghost Pippen bc of it.
 

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