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Lvl gameplay tutorial

cire2245

Rookie 2
Hey guys, would like to share you some video gameplay from a friend of mine. It’s his first video so it isn’t as good as any other content creator for this game, but his intention is to share his knowledge about the gameplay and any constructive feedback will be highly appreciated. To give you background, this guy is posting 30+ points in lvl and in some occasion, 40+ (Highest i saw was 50 point diff). Those on higher ranking league probably came across with this guy already - J3RZ1. Anyone would think no way to score that much in lvl if not for cheat, including myself. But i saw the video myself. Anyway, just sharingyou this youtube link. It may look basic to some especially to those who are veterans to this game, but the guy is also starting in terms of content creation. More videos, suggestions, feedbacks, we will get more quality and informative contents. Thanks

 

dub365

Pro 3
I'd like to see what level team he is playing and if this is SD or LVL. Obv he has skill in getting his 3pt attempts to register as OPEN and getting a lot of quick steals. So I'm sure he can do well against most competition but I want to see LVL against even competition. I want to see 2 qtrs back to back. It's easy to cherry pick good qtrs for your YT channel. What happens when he faces the ol EA nerf?
 

teamduncan

Rookie 2
what is the ovr of his opponent? cause when I fail my steal, opponent will drive by or even shoot a 3. his opponent is just standing there letting him spam steal. that only happens when you have ovr advantage
 

cire2245

Rookie 2
what is the ovr of his opponent? cause when I fail my steal, opponent will drive by or even shoot a 3. his opponent is just standing there letting him spam steal. that only happens when you have ovr advantage
It didn’t mentioned in the video, will ask him. Anyway, The guy just posted a new video of a lvl drive against same 110 ovr and finished with 26 margins. I will tell him to post something like 30+ or 40+ in the future.
 

Altavilla

Pro 1
I welcome the new Youtuber but this is pretty much what 99% of what players are doing in any game mode (nothing particular about LvL). So, it ends up just being a video about how lucky the player was in a particular game... meh
I guess this would be interesting if it was exposing one of those “super AI” we so often see on teams with lower ovrs

But the guy looks ok and i can understand what he says so if he keeps posting stuff (specially a pack opening as soon as said pack is available) he should do well (assuming he knows a little bit more about the NBA than iLogics)
 

Anatdoc

All-Star 2
agree with alta.. if he really wants views, pack openings are the way to go..
Also promo walkthroughs etc might help if he posts on reddit
 

TomH

Pro 2
I’m so tired of (rigged) pack openings. lol

Ive played with this guy. He is consistently good. Sometimes really good. A lot better than me. Tho today’s lvl I got robbed of a 32 by a pf half court “buzzer beater.” But for me, I’d take 29 every day of the week and be delighted. Depending on what the game decides for me tomorrow I could drop an 8! I’ve started tanking my manual lineup to 108 to play lvl, even if opponent has a 109 lineup. So far fewer nerfs. This game is so upside down broken. 🤦‍♂️
 

Ggdfhjjjh

Rookie 1
I’m so tired of (rigged) pack openings. lol

Ive played with this guy. He is consistently good. Sometimes really good. A lot better than me. Tho today’s lvl I got robbed of a 32 by a pf half court “buzzer beater.” But for me, I’d take 29 every day of the week and be delighted. Depending on what the game decides for me tomorrow I could drop an 8! I’ve started tanking my manual lineup to 108 to play lvl, even if opponent has a 109 lineup. So far fewer nerfs. This game is so upside down broken. 🤦‍♂️
And obviously you have his track record well documented to share with us, right? You certainly wouldn't pass your impressions off as a hard facts, would you?
 

Ggdfhjjjh

Rookie 1
I apologies for the harsh tone, but I'm just so ******* tired of this game and all the idiotism around it. Anything that can be said about this "tutorial" has already been said: it's cherry picking and it's 99% of what other players are doing.

This game is a statistical shit, and any statement about this game is true or false ON AVERAGE. Neither one quarter nor series of four, five, six, etc. quarters in a row don't prove anything. "On average" means average of at least 1000 quarters, ok?

Now, why else these videos are ridiculous? In videos like these you can see there is no magic. There is nothing special. But why? Due to another beautiful feature of this game: there is no such thing as skills in this game. Whatsoever.

There is no such skill as "getting 3pt attempts to register as OPEN" (i.e., you can't get your attempt registered as open at your discretion). There is no such skill as "getting a lot of quick steals". There is nothing.

But wtf am I talking about? Am I crazy? Am I another idiot (of which the most of the NBALM fan base consists) who knows nothing about game?

If you don't believe me, make simple experiment by yourself. I'm a data analyst in real life so i actually did experiments in this game and actually gathered the statistics. You can do it too or just believe me. Substance of experiment: 1. autoplay 200 quarters (in SD, for instance). Calculate average margin of these 200 quarters. Of course, the average margin will depend on your team ovr. Let's say it's +4 points.
2. Play manually 200 quarters. Now calculate average margin of these 200 quarters. What this "manual margin" will be? Well, it will be higher than +4 points. If "autoplay average margin" is +4 points your "manual average margin" will be like +10 - +14 points. But these extra 6 - 10 points are due to your skills, right? It's obvious, isn't it?

**** no. And anyone who's been playing this game for longer than a month knows why. Most of these extra points are due to the fact that you just shoot 3-pointers (almost always) while AI shoots 2-pointers (almost always). About 8 - 9 possessions (which is normal) will give you like 6 - 8 extra points in almost any scenario. And if you want to increase the margin you need to speed up the game, which is what guy on the video is doing. More possessions, higher the margin. Another couple of extra points comes from steals. Not because you have a "skill of stealing". The reason is much more prosaic: you just TRY to make a steal (and occasionally succeed) while your AI does not.

In other words, you play just as good as AI when adjusted to these factors. Which leaves no room for mythical "skills". Whatsoever. Results are perfectly stable and robust. You can try it yourself. So please, we need to stop talking nonsense.
 
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Anatdoc

All-Star 2
I apologies for the harsh tone, but I'm just so ******* tired of this game and all the idiotism around it. Anything that can be said about this "tutorial" has already been said: it's cherry picking and it's 99% of what other players are doing.

This game is a statistical shit, and any statement about this game is true or false ON AVERAGE. Neither one quarter nor series of four, five, six, etc. quarters in a row don't prove anything. "On average" means average of at least 1000 quarters, ok?

Now, why else these videos are ridiculous? In videos like these you can see there is no magic. There is nothing special. But why? Due to another beautiful feature of this game: there is no such thing as skills in this game. Whatsoever.

There is no such skill as "getting 3pt attempts to register as OPEN" (i.e., you can't get your attempt registered as open at your discretion). There is no such skill as "getting a lot of quick steals". There is nothing.

But wtf am I talking about? Am I crazy? Am I another idiot (of which the most of the NBALM fan base consists) who knows nothing about game?

If you don't believe me, make simple experiment by yourself. I'm a data analyst in real life so i actually did experiments in this game and actually gathered the statistics. You can do it too or just believe me. Substance of experiment: 1. autoplay 200 quarters (in SD, for instance). Calculate average margin of these 200 quarters. Of course, the average margin will depend on your team ovr. Let's say it's +4 points.
2. Play manually 200 quarters. Now calculate average margin of these 200 quarters. What this "manual margin" will be? Well, it will be higher than +4 points. If "autoplay average margin" is +4 points your "manual average margin" will be like +10 - +14 points. But these extra 6 - 10 points are due to your skills, right? It's obvious, isn't it?

**** no. And anyone who's been playing this game for longer than a month knows why. Most of these extra points are due to the fact that you just shoot 3-pointers (almost always) while AI shoots 2-pointers (almost always). About 8 - 9 possessions (which is normal) will give you like 6 - 8 extra points in almost any scenario. Another couple of extra points comes from steals. Not because you have a "skill of stealing". The reason is much more prosaic: you just TRY to make a steal (and occasionally succeed) while your AI does not.

In other words, you play just as good as AI when adjusted to these factors. Which leaves no room for mythical "skills". Whatsoever. Results are perfectly stable and robust. You can try it yourself. So please, we need to stop talking nonsense.
i do agree with ur general assessment except for one thing.. there is some amount of skill required.
1. getting steals is a skill.. there is timing involved.. some players are better at it (hence consistent good margins) most arent and end up spamming the steal button
2. there is some amount of skill in switching to get blocks.. again lot of timing involved in moving the player at the right time, jumping at the right time etc

where u are right is.. a steal often leads to the ai picking it up.. open shots bricking.. blocks leading to rebound and open shot for the ai..
 

Ggdfhjjjh

Rookie 1
i do agree with ur general assessment except for one thing.. there is some amount of skill required.
1. getting steals is a skill.. there is timing involved.. some players are better at it (hence consistent good margins) most arent and end up spamming the steal button
2. there is some amount of skill in switching to get blocks.. again lot of timing involved in moving the player at the right time, jumping at the right time etc

where u are right is.. a steal often leads to the ai picking it up.. open shots bricking.. blocks leading to rebound and open shot for the ai..
Getting steals is a skill? Ok. Switching to get blocks is a skill? Ok. Good statements but you don't have any facts to prove it, right? It's just your impressions... illusions. That's the problem: people BELIEVE in something that they can't prove. But the fact is that they can't prove it BECAUSE it do not exist.

Why don't you call "making rebounds" a skill? Why shooting is not a skill? Why the only room for skills left in this game is steals and blocks? Isn't it suspicious?

The prove to your statement will be something like this: in 1000 quarters AI makes 1 steal on average and I make 3 steals on average, therefore I have some skill of stealing (Ai doesn't make steals, and it's the reason you believe there's a "steal skill", but never mind). In 1000 quarters AI makes 1 block on average and I make 3 blocks on average, which means that I'm really good at blocking shots. But the truth is that's not the case.
 
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dub365

Pro 3
I apologies for the harsh tone, but I'm just so ******* tired of this game and all the idiotism around it. Anything that can be said about this "tutorial" has already been said: it's cherry picking and it's 99% of what other players are doing.

This game is a statistical shit, and any statement about this game is true or false ON AVERAGE. Neither one quarter nor series of four, five, six, etc. quarters in a row don't prove anything. "On average" means average of at least 1000 quarters, ok?

Now, why else these videos are ridiculous? In videos like these you can see there is no magic. There is nothing special. But why? Due to another beautiful feature of this game: there is no such thing as skills in this game. Whatsoever.

There is no such skill as "getting 3pt attempts to register as OPEN" (i.e., you can't get your attempt registered as open at your discretion). There is no such skill as "getting a lot of quick steals". There is nothing.

But wtf am I talking about? Am I crazy? Am I another idiot (of which the most of the NBALM fan base consists) who knows nothing about game?

If you don't believe me, make simple experiment by yourself. I'm a data analyst in real life so i actually did experiments in this game and actually gathered the statistics. You can do it too or just believe me. Substance of experiment: 1. autoplay 200 quarters (in SD, for instance). Calculate average margin of these 200 quarters. Of course, the average margin will depend on your team ovr. Let's say it's +4 points.
2. Play manually 200 quarters. Now calculate average margin of these 200 quarters. What this "manual margin" will be? Well, it will be higher than +4 points. If "autoplay average margin" is +4 points your "manual average margin" will be like +10 - +14 points. But these extra 6 - 10 points are due to your skills, right? It's obvious, isn't it?

**** no. And anyone who's been playing this game for longer than a month knows why. Most of these extra points are due to the fact that you just shoot 3-pointers (almost always) while AI shoots 2-pointers (almost always). About 8 - 9 possessions (which is normal) will give you like 6 - 8 extra points in almost any scenario. And if you want to increase the margin you need to speed up the game, which is what guy on the video is doing. More possessions, higher the margin. Another couple of extra points comes from steals. Not because you have a "skill of stealing". The reason is much more prosaic: you just TRY to make a steal (and occasionally succeed) while your AI does not.

In other words, you play just as good as AI when adjusted to these factors. Which leaves no room for mythical "skills". Whatsoever. Results are perfectly stable and robust. You can try it yourself. So please, we need to stop talking nonsense.
I feel your frustrations fully. But I think in your analysis you've oversimplified a lot and relied strictly on data a bit much. Regardless of shooting 2s or 3s, a major problem is the AI and the intimately entangled DDA( dynamic difficulty adjustment). If you watch just a few of those 200 autoplayed quarters, you would see your AI controlled team do two things: A) make poor decisions as it relates to exploiting the defensive vulnerabilities and mismatches, making choices that you would not were you controlling the players. B) you would see your team get dominated by the opponent in situations and against lineups where it should never play out that way. Those scenarios drastically affect the point differential when autoplayed quarters are compared to a "decent or better" manual player.

But in the end it's all shit because you're right in the sense that skill alone can't get you the desired results as often as one would expect. No matter how well you can time steals, there will be games where the CPU decides that you aren't going to get the loose balls. You will make more contested 3 pointers than you will ever make Wide Open Perfect Shots. So any perceived "skill" is nullified by EA and their DDA/ nerf/ bullshit, etc.

And that's why I'm not going to waste time on this "hobby" after the season is done. I can't justify the effort when I know that at the end of the day, i have about as much control of winning as I do when I play a slot machine. In the end, I don't control the outcome through my choices, skills, or desire.
 

cire2245

Rookie 2
I apologies for the harsh tone, but I'm just so ******* tired of this game and all the idiotism around it. Anything that can be said about this "tutorial" has already been said: it's cherry picking and it's 99% of what other players are doing.

This game is a statistical shit, and any statement about this game is true or false ON AVERAGE. Neither one quarter nor series of four, five, six, etc. quarters in a row don't prove anything. "On average" means average of at least 1000 quarters, ok?

Now, why else these videos are ridiculous? In videos like these you can see there is no magic. There is nothing special. But why? Due to another beautiful feature of this game: there is no such thing as skills in this game. Whatsoever.

There is no such skill as "getting 3pt attempts to register as OPEN" (i.e., you can't get your attempt registered as open at your discretion). There is no such skill as "getting a lot of quick steals". There is nothing.

But wtf am I talking about? Am I crazy? Am I another idiot (of which the most of the NBALM fan base consists) who knows nothing about game?

If you don't believe me, make simple experiment by yourself. I'm a data analyst in real life so i actually did experiments in this game and actually gathered the statistics. You can do it too or just believe me. Substance of experiment: 1. autoplay 200 quarters (in SD, for instance). Calculate average margin of these 200 quarters. Of course, the average margin will depend on your team ovr. Let's say it's +4 points.
2. Play manually 200 quarters. Now calculate average margin of these 200 quarters. What this "manual margin" will be? Well, it will be higher than +4 points. If "autoplay average margin" is +4 points your "manual average margin" will be like +10 - +14 points. But these extra 6 - 10 points are due to your skills, right? It's obvious, isn't it?

**** no. And anyone who's been playing this game for longer than a month knows why. Most of these extra points are due to the fact that you just shoot 3-pointers (almost always) while AI shoots 2-pointers (almost always). About 8 - 9 possessions (which is normal) will give you like 6 - 8 extra points in almost any scenario. And if you want to increase the margin you need to speed up the game, which is what guy on the video is doing. More possessions, higher the margin. Another couple of extra points comes from steals. Not because you have a "skill of stealing". The reason is much more prosaic: you just TRY to make a steal (and occasionally succeed) while your AI does not.

In other words, you play just as good as AI when adjusted to these factors. Which leaves no room for mythical "skills". Whatsoever. Results are perfectly stable and robust. You can try it yourself. So please, we need to stop talking nonsense.
Hey, agree in most of the things that you have mentioned, that’s why i understand where the frustration is coming from. You make +18 on first drive, then +2 on 2nd against the same opponent and lineup. I also believed that there is no skill on this game, just pure probability. Anyway, i can show some of the screenshots from some of his end of level results, though of course it can still be cherry picked, so maybe the best way to see yourself is to invite him sometimes in your league and play with him. I understand that on his videos he isn’t very good in articulating some of the details on his gameplay, but then, he is not trying to make everyone believe him, and just really enjoying posting gameplay which he think can be helpful to some.
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Ggdfhjjjh

Rookie 1
I feel your frustrations fully. But I think in your analysis you've oversimplified a lot and relied strictly on data a bit much. Regardless of shooting 2s or 3s, a major problem is the AI and the intimately entangled DDA( dynamic difficulty adjustment). If you watch just a few of those 200 autoplayed quarters, you would see your AI controlled team do two things: A) make poor decisions as it relates to exploiting the defensive vulnerabilities and mismatches, making choices that you would not were you controlling the players. B) you would see your team get dominated by the opponent in situations and against lineups where it should never play out that way. Those scenarios drastically affect the point differential when autoplayed quarters are compared to a "decent or better" manual player.

But in the end it's all shit because you're right in the sense that skill alone can't get you the desired results as often as one would expect. No matter how well you can time steals, there will be games where the CPU decides that you aren't going to get the loose balls. You will make more contested 3 pointers than you will ever make Wide Open Perfect Shots. So any perceived "skill" is nullified by EA and their DDA/ nerf/ bullshit, etc.

And that's why I'm not going to waste time on this "hobby" after the season is done. I can't justify the effort when I know that at the end of the day, i have about as much control of winning as I do when I play a slot machine. In the end, I don't control the outcome through my choices, skills, or desire.
Yes, there is obviously DDA. And that is exactly the reason for what I claim to be reality of this game. Particular scenarios of any particular quarter are of no importance at all. The essense of averaging is elimination of noise to see what there really is. When you say "DDA affect the point differential of AI as compared to a "decent or better" manual player" I say just "There is no decent players". It's basically the same in terms of ultimate result. If "decent" player has average point differential of +12, and "average" player has average point differential of +12 (other things being equal, including team ovr etc.) what "decent" is supposed to mean after all?

But as far as I can understand, that's exactly what you are talking about too, when talking about nullifing of any "perceived" skill. So I agree with you and accept that you your explanation might be more clear than mine.

As for me, I can't wait this season to end too. There is no way I'm playing this shit in S5. Rarely do I feel such a disgust towards myself as I feel now because I still play it
 

Ggdfhjjjh

Rookie 1
Hey, agree in most of the things that you have mentioned, that’s why i understand where the frustration is coming from. You make +18 on first drive, then +2 on 2nd against the same opponent and lineup. I also believed that there is no skill on this game, just pure probability. Anyway, i can show some of the screenshots from some of his end of level results, though of course it can still be cherry picked, so maybe the best way to see yourself is to invite him sometimes in your league and play with him. I understand that on his videos he isn’t very good in articulating some of the details on his gameplay, but then, he is not trying to make everyone believe him, and just really enjoying posting gameplay which he think can be helpful to some. View attachment 5193 View attachment 5186 View attachment 5187 View attachment 5188 View attachment 5189 View attachment 5191 View attachment 5192 View attachment 5193
I never said it was pure probability. What i claimed was exactly the opposite - it's predetermined on average.

As for the rest - no matter how impressive these screenshots look like, the only thing that really matters is his average margin for all of his lvl quarters. I also had quarters against opponents with + 2 ovr where I was able to win like 23 - 0. So what? It happens sometimes.

Bottom line - if someone likes this videos, if someone finds them useful - I think it's beautiful and I wish the best of luck to this guy on Youtube.
 

teamduncan

Rookie 2
Getting steals is a skill? Ok. Switching to get blocks is a skill? Ok. Good statements but you don't have any facts to prove it, right? It's just your impressions... illusions. That's the problem: people BELIEVE in something that they can't prove. But the fact is that they can't prove it BECAUSE it do not exist.

Why don't you call "making rebounds" a skill? Why shooting is not a skill? Why the only room for skills left in this game is steals and blocks? Isn't it suspicious?

The prove to your statement will be something like this: in 1000 quarters AI makes 1 steal on average and I make 3 steals on average, therefore I have some skill of stealing (Ai doesn't make steals, and it's the reason you believe there's a "steal skill", but never mind). In 1000 quarters AI makes 1 block on average and I make 3 blocks on average, which means that I'm really good at blocking shots. But the truth is that's not the case.
Do you think some players (taller players) get steals easier than others?

And do you think some players (person who plays) can time the steals better? (Vs a failed steal that results in a drive)?

While I do agree that a lot of this is pure probability (chance of making that corner 3. As everyone really just shoot the same shot for example)

But I always feel like some players (maybe they have higher ovr?) Can get more steals. When I spam steals and fail, ai tend to blow by me. So I tend to be careful in not spamming.
 

Ggdfhjjjh

Rookie 1
Do you think some players (taller players) get steals easier than others?

And do you think some players (person who plays) can time the steals better? (Vs a failed steal that results in a drive)?

While I do agree that a lot of this is pure probability (chance of making that corner 3. As everyone really just shoot the same shot for example)

But I always feel like some players (maybe they have higher ovr?) Can get more steals. When I spam steals and fail, ai tend to blow by me. So I tend to be careful in not spamming.
Taller players? Like Bol gets steals easier than Kemba? I don't think so. However, I know what you are talking about. For example, I would say that giannis is my best stealer. But I think it doesn't mean much.

I don't think some players can time the steals better. More to the point, i don't think there is such thing as "right timing for the steal". After all, everybody talk about right timing, but nobody can actually say what is the right time to steal, right? Interesting, isn't it?

Again, maybe someone who claimes there is right timing just can't desribe what is the right moment to tap "steal". Maybe it's hard to explain. But that shall not be hard to demonstrate, right? If you have a skill, it's not hard to show it? So you can just ask that person to show how he makes like 5, or 6, or 7 steals in any given game. And you know what? Well, i guess you know what, lol)))

Now the best part. You say like you FEEL like some players can get more steals. Well, me too. I also feel sometimes like some layers can get more steals. And the problem is that it's nothing more than a feeling, illusion. You see how you play thousands of games. And you see haw other person plays ONE game. And it's impossible to make any comparisons - you need to see much much more games played by that person to be able to compare.

You know, I used to play really a lot in Arena mode. You get like 10 wins in a row, against teams with higher ovr, against those guys with 5 clutch players from Season 3 with 110 overall, you are brilliant player, you are best in the world, and then it happens - you play against a guy who just destroys you. You know what I mean - he (maybe, she?) plays like a God. He makes like 5 steals from you, he makes like 5 blocks, there is nothing you can do, you are just a ******* helpless puppy. And you think: Wow, this guy is genius, he's really got the skills.

And then... Then you play him another one. And all of a sudden, magic is gone, lol. All of sudden you smash him pretty easily. You can see that he's trying. You can see he does pretty much the same that he did when he destroyed you. With the little exception: he tries to steal - but there's no steal, he tries to block - to no avail.

Then you play him again, then again. He's still good, but... No magic, not even close. can you imagine this in real life, where skills actually exist? It's like you play 1-on-1 against Harden and he smashes you. Then in the next game you are the winner. Plausible?
 

TomH

Pro 2
And obviously you have his track record well documented to share with us, right? You certainly wouldn't pass your impressions off as a hard facts, would you?
Jesus! I just said I’ve played with him before And he got good scores. I’m neither defending nor criticizing him. He’s a jumper, I’m not, and that’s the only few times I’ve “seen” him play. 🤦‍♂️ Guess I better start charting everyone who plays so I can present some empirical evidence. But I’ve seen game video in league chats and see (Illusion?) guys who are just better at stealing than I am. And they do time it. They play to the non dribble hand and the instant the dribble hand changes they are are there for a one swipe steal. But I’ve just seen it, so please excuse my anecdotal claims. I suck because I’m not quick enough to react Like they do And cut off an attempted drive - it’s high risk playing to the pg’s side. And I get fewer steals as a result. This “there is no skill in this game” is a classic Reddit whine. There are also guys who cheat.

If you had been around here a little longer, Rook, you’d know there isn’t a member here more critical of the shit gameplay and nerfs this season Than I. So maybe hold your own unscientific attacks until you know who it is your are dumping on.

but I do agree that skill has been minimized by the gameplay changes. Steals are harder. Used to be(pre-S4) the dribble animations were precisely timed. Guys actually charted this. (That’s a level of commitment I’m not willing to make). I don’t think that’s entirely true anymore. And even the best non- Cheating player will encounter nerfs they cannot overcome. Without a doubt EA is trying to create parity and that, Rook, will be the death of the game as many have left, and many more (including me) are leaving at the end of this season.
 
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Ggdfhjjjh

Rookie 1
Jesus! I just said I’ve played with him before And he got good scores. I’m neither defending nor criticizing him. He’s a jumper, I’m not, and that’s the only few times I’ve “seen” him play. 🤦‍♂️ Guess I better start charting everyone who plays so I can present some empirical evidence. But I’ve seen game video in league chats and see (Illusion?) guys who are just better at stealing than I am. And they do time it. They play to the non dribble hand and the instant the dribble hand changes they are are there for a one swipe steal. But I’ve just seen it, so please excuse my anecdotal claims. I suck because I’m not quick enough to react Like they do And cut off an attempted drive - it’s high risk playing to the pg’s side. And I get fewer steals as a result. This “there is no skill in this game” is a classic Reddit whine. There are also guys who cheat.

If you had been around here a little longer, Rook, you’d know there isn’t a member here more critical of the shit gameplay and nerfs this season Than I. So maybe hold your own unscientific attacks until you know who it is your are dumping on.

but I do agree that skill has been minimized by the gameplay changes. Steals are harder. Used to be(pre-S4) the dribble animations were precisely timed. Guys actually charted this. (That’s a level of commitment I’m not willing to make). I don’t think that’s entirely true anymore. And even the best non- Cheating player will encounter nerfs they cannot overcome. Without a doubt EA is trying to create parity and that, Rook, will be the death of the game as many have left, and many more (including me) are leaving at the end of this season.
I have no idea what prompted you to write this shit: "If you had been around here a little longer, Rook, you’d know there isn’t a member here more critical of the shit gameplay and nerfs this season Than I. So maybe hold your own unscientific attacks until you know who it is your are dumping on".
You either were in a bad mood, or have some mental disorders. Of course, i believe former to be true since you are PRO, lol
 

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I have no idea what prompted you to write this shit: "If you had been around here a little longer, Rook, you’d know there isn’t a member here more critical of the shit gameplay and nerfs this season Than I. So maybe hold your own unscientific attacks until you know who it is your are dumping on".
You either were in a bad mood, or have some mental disorders. Of course, i believe former to be true since you are PRO, lol

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